Gun talk or something beside the stupid title i gave it
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CA already decreed that only lead free bullets can be used for hunting, the next step is to ban sales of lead containing bullets.
The goal is to drive ammo costs up and perhaps limit supplies. However some of the copper bullets are vey lethal and new designs are coming out all the time.
The cost will go down as competition rises.
The rimfires will suffer the most, maybe Zinc can be used.
The goal is to drive ammo costs up and perhaps limit supplies. However some of the copper bullets are vey lethal and new designs are coming out all the time.
The cost will go down as competition rises.
The rimfires will suffer the most, maybe Zinc can be used.
Wish Cow would shut the door, i'd like to go xhootin.
Wasn't going to, but decoded i will send these two in for the voluntary upgrade.
Smith has a 100.00 rebate going on for the 2.0 series
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i prefer copper solids, barnes to be exact, in the rifles i have that will throw them accurate. i can however see, it would be expensive to punch paper. many are too slow of a twist to stabilize the long projectile........although some are lighter than standard and there fore about the same length as a lead core standard. ymmv
bearing surface fiction can raise pressure versus the same weight with a lead bullet
Went and tried to sight in this cheap red dot, i have one on a 9mm and it works perfect. the dot worked fine but the gun wouldn't cycle with it on there. guess it's too big. it don't feel to weigh anymore than the metal top plate. but it wouldn't cycle. Plus the Winchester ammo i had was the worse i ever seen. it had bent cases in the box and the crap was tarnished all up. this was brand new ammo i just got the other day. stuff was so inconsistently loaded you could actually hear and feel the difference.
Well i figured this weak ammo is the problem so i pulled out some Hornady and wow what a difference in noise level and recoil. this stuff had a lot more punch. so i squeezed off the next round and click. No cartridge in the chamber. I tried it a couple more times and same deal.
so then i get to figuring the sight is too heavy, so i took the sight off and put the top plate on and loaded a 15 round mag and it went through it all, loaded another one and same results. by then i was frustrated a bit and ready to leave. not the best groups in the world but i had a single shot for most of it and was really shooting to get it working other than accuracy.
I also had 5 rounds of that Winchester stuff that didn't go off and the striker knocked the crap out of it. tried firing them each a couple times and nothing. also some of the Winchester tumbled, you can see where they went sideways into the target. they stuff was hitting all over too. nothing consistent. guess i got a bad batch.
Well i figured this weak ammo is the problem so i pulled out some Hornady and wow what a difference in noise level and recoil. this stuff had a lot more punch. so i squeezed off the next round and click. No cartridge in the chamber. I tried it a couple more times and same deal.
so then i get to figuring the sight is too heavy, so i took the sight off and put the top plate on and loaded a 15 round mag and it went through it all, loaded another one and same results. by then i was frustrated a bit and ready to leave. not the best groups in the world but i had a single shot for most of it and was really shooting to get it working other than accuracy.
I also had 5 rounds of that Winchester stuff that didn't go off and the striker knocked the crap out of it. tried firing them each a couple times and nothing. also some of the Winchester tumbled, you can see where they went sideways into the target. they stuff was hitting all over too. nothing consistent. guess i got a bad batch.
7mm PRC, the next I'd like to try. BC's are excellent. Even the coppers are decent.
7mm PRC - Hornady Manufacturing, Inc
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I was at the neihbors today. We was tweaking some adjustments on his press. He says it is capable of 2400rds/hr. He's got quite the operation goin on. 
It was nice enough to do a little shooting yesterday. The taurus tx22 I got for the wife for Christmas was fun to shoot. The steel framed Canicks havent arrived yet. The SFX got shot. Also shot the Italian police surplus 92 Beratta. Both nice shooters. I see MP5 clones on sale. Hmmm.
Neihbor brought the rugged supressor over for a conjical visit. Still waiting on the tax stamp... Adam/jonseredracket brought his Ruger pc charger. The surpressor looked nice on it. I didn't get any pics. We wuz losing daylight fast and hurrying to get shooting done.
Dibz on everything in the room. Especially the primers and the Forester Co-Ax press.